clipped planchet

azbarnhill · Joined: 28 Aug 2009 Posts: 94

Does any one know about clipped planchets? I was reading up on it because I found one and if you know about them enough to tell if they are the real deal I will post a pic.

omahaorange · Joined: 16 Jun 2009 Posts: 600

Why not just post the picture? I'm no expert but I have read a little. Never saw one first-hand. The photo will help us all with our education.

azbarnhill · Joined: 28 Aug 2009 Posts: 94

here.

omahaorange · Joined: 16 Jun 2009 Posts: 600

Definitely not a rim dent. I would say it's a clipped planchet. Part of the rim is actually missing from the strike.

azbarnhill · Joined: 28 Aug 2009 Posts: 94

Thanks omahaorange. was wanting to try and sell on ebay because it is out side of the coins I collect and just wanted to know if anyone here can say if it is real or fake. I definatly dont want to sell a bad coin. I come from a background in construction and I would think that with a punch and a file or dremel you could possibly reproduce it. Was wandering if there is some kind of formula or something for the outer diameter of the coin and the rad. of the clip to tell if is real? I seen all of the other info and dont know if its right but I havent a clue.

omahaorange · Joined: 16 Jun 2009 Posts: 600

Without physically examining the coin, I can't guarantee it's real. Use at least a 10x jewler's loupe and examine the edge. Look for minute, EVENLY SPACED scratches on the edge, or look for evidence of polishing. Check to see that the toning is even across the coin and along the edge. If the rim was mechanically removed either with a dremel or a file, it should show the evenly spaced marks from the grinding under magnification. These would not be evident on a clipped planchet, as the clipping is formed before the striking process. Planchets are made by punching a sheet of the coin material. The clipping results when the punch hits an area of the sheet off center from the last punch, overlapping the last area hit or punching off the edge. They are not broken or ground off at the mint. So any signs of scratching like I described would lead me to believe it was fake.

genrichkarlovichjr · Joined: 04 Dec 2009 Posts: 5 Location: Finland

i went out on Friday for a hack in the evening and both boys where wet, and still at 10.30 at night, so the first one was clipped Saturday and the other will be done during the week.

azbarnhill · Joined: 28 Aug 2009 Posts: 94

genrichkarlovichjr
whate are you talking about? Your comment made no sense at all.

omahaorange · Joined: 16 Jun 2009 Posts: 600

He's the second one. Look at FalToday's posts. Same nonsense. This one also posted some spam about levitra. Wonder who actually moderates this board? There's been spamming in the past, but this is getting ridiculous.

playin4funami · Joined: 02 Dec 2009 Posts: 14

the first thing I would look at would be to draw an outline of the coin on paper then line the clipped portion up to the outside to see if it is a tighter clip than the coins curve,the clip happens when the planchet is punched from sheets of metal so the "roundness" of the clip cannot be tighter,but it can be a little wider or even flat if it came from an edge or end of the sheet of metal,not foolproof but it does eliminate some percentage of the possibility of it being faked. Myself I have no interest in the clips for the same reason as they are easy to reproduce,I could pop coins into a press and punch clips out all day long,if I were looking to be dishonest.I am real carefull around any error coins for this reason,Alot of errors can be reproduced in the home shop,I have a 40 ton hydrolic press,welders,torches,and many other metal working tools that I,m positive could be used to fool a beginner if one was so inclined to do that.